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Public Accounts Committee: Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General 2014
Vote 21: Prisons
Vote 24: Department of Justice and Equality
Chapter 9: Development of Prison Accommodation in Dublin
(5 Nov 2015)

John Perry: I would not say they should do so for widespread private companies, but in major commercial properties that would be identified as being at risk - petrol filling stations, for example. It is very easy to identify the top five types of property that are now being a serious hit on these guys who are coming from Dublin in high-speed vehicles. I am not saying that we would identify 100% of them...

Public Accounts Committee: Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General 2014
Vote 21: Prisons
Vote 24: Department of Justice and Equality
Chapter 9: Development of Prison Accommodation in Dublin
(5 Nov 2015)

John Perry: I have one final question. I think we are getting extraordinary value for money for the reserve force and I have seen them operate and they are as effective as the Garda Síochána on the ground. They really are an extraordinary vehicle for creating a policing presence. What are the plans for that?

Public Accounts Committee: Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General 2014
Vote 21: Prisons
Vote 24: Department of Justice and Equality
Chapter 9: Development of Prison Accommodation in Dublin
(5 Nov 2015)

John Perry: I would like to compliment the Commissioner on her extraordinary endeavour since she has been appointed and wish her well.

Written Answers — Department of Social Protection: Disability Allowance Eligibility (3 Nov 2015)

John Perry: 178. To ask the Tánaiste and Minister for Social Protection if she will intervene in the decision to remove the disability allowance of a person (details supplied); and if she will make a statement on the matter. [37468/15]

Written Answers — Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Basic Payment Scheme Eligibility (3 Nov 2015)

John Perry: 441. To ask the Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine if basic payments will be returned to a person (details supplied) in County Sligo; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [37878/15]

Written Answers — Department of Health: Medical Card Applications (3 Nov 2015)

John Perry: 757. To ask the Minister for Health the current status of an application for a medical card by a person (details supplied) in County Sligo; if he will issue a discretionary Medical Card to the person, given that person's serious illness; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [37868/15]

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive Financial Statements 2014
2014 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 39: Health Service Executive
Chapter 19: Compliance with Prompt Payment Legislation in the Health Sector
Chapter 20: Management of Private Patient Income in the Health Sector
Chapter 21: Control over the Supply of High-Tech Drugs and Medicines
(22 Oct 2015)

John Perry: I am dismayed by Deputy Fleming's point because I know as a former Minister of State that travelling, whether on business to Madrid or wherever else, that there are certain inferences about going on a trip or a conference. I have no doubt there is a record of many Oireachtas Members travelling to destinations when there was no obligation on them to do it, without the Oireachtas paying for...

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive Financial Statements 2014
2014 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 39: Health Service Executive
Chapter 19: Compliance with Prompt Payment Legislation in the Health Sector
Chapter 20: Management of Private Patient Income in the Health Sector
Chapter 21: Control over the Supply of High-Tech Drugs and Medicines
(22 Oct 2015)

John Perry: I ask Mr. O'Brien to explain that again. Is he saying that the over estimate was outside his control?

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive Financial Statements 2014
2014 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 39: Health Service Executive
Chapter 19: Compliance with Prompt Payment Legislation in the Health Sector
Chapter 20: Management of Private Patient Income in the Health Sector
Chapter 21: Control over the Supply of High-Tech Drugs and Medicines
(22 Oct 2015)

John Perry: Did the Comptroller and Auditor General's audit team investigate the over run?

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive Financial Statements 2014
2014 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 39: Health Service Executive
Chapter 19: Compliance with Prompt Payment Legislation in the Health Sector
Chapter 20: Management of Private Patient Income in the Health Sector
Chapter 21: Control over the Supply of High-Tech Drugs and Medicines
(22 Oct 2015)

John Perry: That was not made clear in the Comptroller and Auditor General's report. We are talking about an over run and how the money was spent in areas that are not under the control of the HSE. We are talking about schemes that are demand led, for example. How is that not incorporated into the report?

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive Financial Statements 2014
2014 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 39: Health Service Executive
Chapter 19: Compliance with Prompt Payment Legislation in the Health Sector
Chapter 20: Management of Private Patient Income in the Health Sector
Chapter 21: Control over the Supply of High-Tech Drugs and Medicines
(22 Oct 2015)

John Perry: In the context of services that are demand led, what are the implications for the future in terms of the HSE not receiving supplementary funding?

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive Financial Statements 2014
2014 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 39: Health Service Executive
Chapter 19: Compliance with Prompt Payment Legislation in the Health Sector
Chapter 20: Management of Private Patient Income in the Health Sector
Chapter 21: Control over the Supply of High-Tech Drugs and Medicines
(22 Oct 2015)

John Perry: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive Financial Statements 2014
2014 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 39: Health Service Executive
Chapter 19: Compliance with Prompt Payment Legislation in the Health Sector
Chapter 20: Management of Private Patient Income in the Health Sector
Chapter 21: Control over the Supply of High-Tech Drugs and Medicines
(22 Oct 2015)

John Perry: Will the new system of fiscal controls not impact on the demand-led services? There is constant talk about trolleys, medical cards and so forth but if something comes down the track that is not foreseen, how will the HSE deal with it?

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive Financial Statements 2014
2014 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 39: Health Service Executive
Chapter 19: Compliance with Prompt Payment Legislation in the Health Sector
Chapter 20: Management of Private Patient Income in the Health Sector
Chapter 21: Control over the Supply of High-Tech Drugs and Medicines
(22 Oct 2015)

John Perry: I ask the Department of Health officials to respond to a question about the new hospital groups and the autonomy that has been given to hospitals. Given that the HSE is accountable for service provision, how will this impact on the services being provided by the new hospital groups? How will it effect the deficits and budgets?

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive Financial Statements 2014
2014 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 39: Health Service Executive
Chapter 19: Compliance with Prompt Payment Legislation in the Health Sector
Chapter 20: Management of Private Patient Income in the Health Sector
Chapter 21: Control over the Supply of High-Tech Drugs and Medicines
(22 Oct 2015)

John Perry: What are the biggest challenges for the HSE at the moment? It is easy for members to come in here and to criticise and find fault with the executive but we must bear in mind the size of the organisation, the number of staff it employs, the different services it provides, including demand-led services, HIQA inspections and so forth. I do not envy Mr. O'Brien's job. What, in his view, are...

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive Financial Statements 2014
2014 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 39: Health Service Executive
Chapter 19: Compliance with Prompt Payment Legislation in the Health Sector
Chapter 20: Management of Private Patient Income in the Health Sector
Chapter 21: Control over the Supply of High-Tech Drugs and Medicines
(22 Oct 2015)

John Perry: I wish to refer to the issue of moving people from hospital into long-term care settings. During the recession there was a shortage of long-term care beds. The new HIQA standards dictate that ward sizes must be limited. If HIQA carries out an inspection and a facility is found to be in breach of the standards, what happens if that facility seeks funding from the HSE in order to carry out...

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive Financial Statements 2014
2014 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 39: Health Service Executive
Chapter 19: Compliance with Prompt Payment Legislation in the Health Sector
Chapter 20: Management of Private Patient Income in the Health Sector
Chapter 21: Control over the Supply of High-Tech Drugs and Medicines
(22 Oct 2015)

John Perry: A very important issue which was debated in the public domain is the lifesaving drugs that cost €1,000 or €2,000 per week to a category of patients who are taking trial drugs. What is the position on funding new trial medicine in a situation where it is life or death?

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive Financial Statements 2014
2014 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 39: Health Service Executive
Chapter 19: Compliance with Prompt Payment Legislation in the Health Sector
Chapter 20: Management of Private Patient Income in the Health Sector
Chapter 21: Control over the Supply of High-Tech Drugs and Medicines
(22 Oct 2015)

John Perry: We heard about the issue of small companies involved in procurement and the supply chain, the co-ordination of buying and duplication. I was previously Chairman of the committee and since I have returned to it there has always been an issue with how procurement is run and the integration of the service. While in theory it sounds easy to implement, what are the challenges in implementing it?

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive Financial Statements 2014
2014 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 39: Health Service Executive
Chapter 19: Compliance with Prompt Payment Legislation in the Health Sector
Chapter 20: Management of Private Patient Income in the Health Sector
Chapter 21: Control over the Supply of High-Tech Drugs and Medicines
(22 Oct 2015)

John Perry: Was the HSE involved in the InterTradeIreland cross-Border meet the buyer event at the RDS?

Public Accounts Committee: Health Service Executive Financial Statements 2014
2014 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 39: Health Service Executive
Chapter 19: Compliance with Prompt Payment Legislation in the Health Sector
Chapter 20: Management of Private Patient Income in the Health Sector
Chapter 21: Control over the Supply of High-Tech Drugs and Medicines
(22 Oct 2015)

John Perry: On value for money, which is the adjudication of the committee, how do the HSE’s reports stack up?

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