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Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report No. 89
Internal Control in County Cork Vocational Education Committee
(9 Jul 2015)

John Perry: From reading the file, the level of litigation indicates the VEC was not a happy camp in which to work. The contentious human resource issues these cases raised and to which Mr. Owens referred suggest that not only was there a lack of controls in place in the VEC but there was little harmony in the system.

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report No. 89
Internal Control in County Cork Vocational Education Committee
(9 Jul 2015)

John Perry: Will the Secretary General respond from the point of view of what the Department has learned in respect of the reconfiguration of the vocational education committees? Does Mr. Ó Foghlú believe the level of observation, due diligence and controls, apart from the role of the Comptroller and Auditor General, will prevent circumstances similar to those that occurred in County Cork...

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report No. 89
Internal Control in County Cork Vocational Education Committee
(9 Jul 2015)

John Perry: On the terms of contract for the employment of teachers and ancillary staff, is there a formal contract of engagement in place for new teachers? Is a timeframe in place with regard to the employment of teachers in the vocational education committees? How are terms and conditions, contract hours and timetables dealt with now?

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report No. 89
Internal Control in County Cork Vocational Education Committee
(9 Jul 2015)

John Perry: In general terms, how are contracts managed for teaching staff in respect of hours, timetables and salaries?

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report No. 89
Internal Control in County Cork Vocational Education Committee
(9 Jul 2015)

John Perry: I accept that Mr. Owens has only recently assumed the role of chief executive officer and I wish him well in his new role. It is very important, however, that these matters be discussed in light of the report produced by the Comptroller and Auditor General. I note that correspondence members received today is very critical of the former chief executives of County Cork VEC. While they may...

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report No. 89
Internal Control in County Cork Vocational Education Committee
(9 Jul 2015)

John Perry: There was a case involving the early retirement of a teacher based on a general practitioner's letter. An investigator had been appointed to look into the case but once the teacher retired, the investigator was taken off the case.

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report No. 89
Internal Control in County Cork Vocational Education Committee
(9 Jul 2015)

John Perry: It had already cost €26,300. When did the investigation take place?

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report No. 89
Internal Control in County Cork Vocational Education Committee
(9 Jul 2015)

John Perry: Were the investigator's initial findings brought to the attention of the Secretary General?

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report No. 89
Internal Control in County Cork Vocational Education Committee
(9 Jul 2015)

John Perry: What happened to that document?

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report No. 89
Internal Control in County Cork Vocational Education Committee
(9 Jul 2015)

John Perry: Having received €26,500, the investigator's initial report must have been a substantial document and could have been of value to the Secretary General.

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report No. 89
Internal Control in County Cork Vocational Education Committee
(9 Jul 2015)

John Perry: With regard to payments to students, €114,000 was paid to 28 students, of which €34,000 pertained to retained students. Why did the VEC retain the students until 2012 given that the internal audit report completed in 2010 raised questions about the students' eligibility? The length of time for which they were retained was up to 20%, whereas the national average is 3%.

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report No. 89
Internal Control in County Cork Vocational Education Committee
(9 Jul 2015)

John Perry: What is the current percentage of students participating in Youthreach programmes for more than three years?

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report No. 89
Internal Control in County Cork Vocational Education Committee
(9 Jul 2015)

John Perry: Has the Department reviewed its guidelines to clarify the limits on discretion?

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report No. 89
Internal Control in County Cork Vocational Education Committee
(9 Jul 2015)

John Perry: Is Mr. Owens satisfied that all leases currently in place were appropriately sanctioned? Are any leased properties currently vacant or are there long-term leases which do not offer a return?

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report No. 89
Internal Control in County Cork Vocational Education Committee
(9 Jul 2015)

John Perry: Was it not highly embarrassing for the Department that it had to pay a tax settlement of €115,700? That included €95,000, interest of €10,000 and penalties of €9,500. It covered a number of tax categories dating as far back as 2003. The amount of €86,000 was repaid to Revenue in January 2013 and the balance was repaid in June 2013. Has a Revenue audit...

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report No. 89
Internal Control in County Cork Vocational Education Committee
(9 Jul 2015)

John Perry: Are PAYE and PRSI not deducted at source from teachers' salaries? How could this have been done when those deductions are made through an automated system?

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report No. 89
Internal Control in County Cork Vocational Education Committee
(9 Jul 2015)

John Perry: On the bank accounts, which was my next question, who funded those bank accounts?

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report No. 89
Internal Control in County Cork Vocational Education Committee
(9 Jul 2015)

John Perry: In regard to the bank reconciliations of all these accounts and having regard to the volume of schools, who is the credit controller? Has the education and training board in the county a credit controller?

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report No. 89
Internal Control in County Cork Vocational Education Committee
(9 Jul 2015)

John Perry: Is there a petty cash box in most schools?

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report No. 89
Internal Control in County Cork Vocational Education Committee
(9 Jul 2015)

John Perry: How is the issue of procurement for the centres in the county dealt with? I refer to procurement of services for the education and training board's student population and staff, whether it be for catering facilities or the supply of materials for Youthreach programmes. How are they managed?

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