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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Energy Poverty: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Denis Naughten: I call Deputy Ó Laoghaire.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Energy Poverty: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Denis Naughten: I thank Mr. Hession. Does Deputy Ó Laoghaire have a supplementary question?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Energy Poverty: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Denis Naughten: The learnings from the midlands retrofit programme would also be interesting to see.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Energy Poverty: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Denis Naughten: Apologies have been received from Deputy Joan Collins, who is in the Dáil Chamber this morning. Members are required to participate in the meeting remotely from within the Leinster House precincts only. I welcome the witnesses. They are protected by absolute privilege in respect of the presentation they make to the committee. This means that they have an absolute defence against any...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Energy Poverty: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Denis Naughten: No. I will bring the Deputy back in if we have time at the end, but I want to get other members in. Senator Wall has indicated.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Energy Poverty: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Denis Naughten: We will take the questions together because we are under time constraints.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Energy Poverty: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Denis Naughten: To clarify, are not all energy providers signed up to it?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Energy Poverty: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Denis Naughten: Does Senator Wall have a supplementary question?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Energy Poverty: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Denis Naughten: Perhaps the Senator might provide the Department with the details of the properties in question offline to see if we can-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Energy Poverty: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Denis Naughten: Is that for someone aged over or under 70 years?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Energy Poverty: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Denis Naughten: I filled out a similar form.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Energy Poverty: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Denis Naughten: Okay. We-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Energy Poverty: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Denis Naughten: Very briefly, Deputy.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Energy Poverty: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Denis Naughten: Very briefly now.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Energy Poverty: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Denis Naughten: He can be sure of it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Energy Poverty: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Denis Naughten: That is the case, but anyway we will get the note.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Energy Poverty: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Denis Naughten: I know. We will be dealing with the capital issue regarding means testing in two or three weeks. No bank anywhere in Europe is giving the rate of income that is being calculated by the Department of Social Protection on their capital at present. This is an issue of concern for the committee and something we will look at in detail. Does Deputy Ó Cuív have any supplementary...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Energy Poverty: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Denis Naughten: I have two questions, the first of which is for Mr. Hession. While I do not dispute the evidence we have heard from him, based on the evidence we got from the Irish Cancer Society, there is a lack of communication on the heating supplement. Mr. Hession is correct in saying that the safety net is there but it is not being put in place for people who are terminally ill with cancer. I suggest...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Energy Poverty: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Denis Naughten: I thank Mr. Hession.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Energy Poverty: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Denis Naughten: I thank our guests for their evidence and contributions this morning. Before we conclude our business in public session, I want to welcome Dara O'Sullivan from Belvedere College who is on TY experience in Leinster House this week.

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