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Seanad: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2023)

Pat Casey: I thank the Senator and call Senator Black.

Seanad: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2023)

Pat Casey: No, we are speaking to amendment No. 1 at the moment.

Seanad: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2023)

Pat Casey: I call the Minister.

Seanad: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2023)

Pat Casey: I remind the Senator that section 14 relates to the working family repayment? We gave the Senator a little latitude on class K. Does Senator Burke want to contribute?

Seanad: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2023)

Pat Casey: In fairness, I have given a little latitude on this. Section 14 is about the working family payment, not class K. I gave Senator Craughwell a bit of latitude.

Seanad: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2023)

Pat Casey: That was ruled out of order.

Seanad: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2023)

Pat Casey: We can raise that with the Cathaoirleach if the Senator wants.

Seanad: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2023)

Pat Casey: If the Minister wishes to reply, she may.

Seanad: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2023)

Pat Casey: I am giving latitude. We are time bound this evening.

Seanad: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2023)

Pat Casey: No. I gave some latitude to allow the Senator in. It was ruled out of order. It is the wrong section. The Minister has clearly answered the Senator. She shares his concerns. She has given him a pathway for how to progress this issue in regard to class K. I acknowledge the work he has done on this issue for a long time but we are very much time-bound this evening and I need to move on.

Seanad: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2023)

Pat Casey: Amendments Nos. 2 and 5 are related and may be discussed together, by agreement. Is that agreed? Agreed.

Seanad: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2023)

Pat Casey: Not at this point. This is just on amendments Nos. 2 and 5.

Seanad: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2023)

Pat Casey: Is the Senator pressing the amendment?

Seanad: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2023)

Pat Casey: It was announced and agreed earlier.

Seanad: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2023)

Pat Casey: Amendments Nos. 8 and 15 are related and may be discussed together by agreement. Is that agreed? Agreed.

Seanad: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2023)

Pat Casey: We will let the Senator in. Sorry, Senator.

Seanad: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2023: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2023)

Pat Casey: Amendments Nos. 9 to 12, inclusive, are ruled out of order due to a potential charge on the Revenue.

Seanad: Credit Union (Amendment) Bill 2022: [Seanad Bill amended by the Dáil] Report and Final Stages (5 Dec 2023)

Pat Casey: Now.

Seanad: Finance (No. 2) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (5 Dec 2023)

Pat Casey: The Minister is welcome. I also welcome my good friend, Gail Dunne. We have competed and soldiered in elections together, but through all that time we have always remained good friends. That is very important in politics today. When submitting the three recommendations, I knew they would probably be ruled out of order, but I wished to continue my focus on what I believe is a certain...

Seanad: Finance (No. 2) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (5 Dec 2023)

Pat Casey: I thank the Minister for his answer. He spoke to me about it privately so I was aware of what was coming. I will not give up on this because it is the right thing to do. If we need to get the relevant Ministers and bodies into a room to try to sort this out, we should. This cohort of people are the very people we should assist. I fully accept the Minister's point about the LTV ratio. I...

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