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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Kehoe: Why is Leisure Horse Ireland able to process its applications through the very same organisation, Weatherbys Ireland, which Horse Sport Ireland is using and Horse Sport Ireland is unable to do so. Is it because of the change in testing?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Kehoe: If the breeder has not filled up all his or her paperwork correctly and everything like that, would the blame or fault be then put back to the breeder?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Kehoe: Whose fault is it then?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Kehoe: Does Mr. Duggan believed that his organisation is fit for purpose to be managing the processing of horse passports?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Kehoe: Mr. Duggan said there were a number of staff working in the passport section. How many were working in that section?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Kehoe: How many staff are working in the passport section today?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Kehoe: So there are 15 staff members working there today.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Kehoe: How many of those staff members are new and needed training, and all such matters?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Kehoe: Why does Horse Sport Ireland believe that staff just want to leave his organisation, where there are many other organisations competing in a buoyant economy? Is it that they were just not happy in it?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Kehoe: I would not condone that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Kehoe: When the organisation was going into the new format of DNA testing it has introduced through Weatherbys Ireland, would Mr. Duggan as CEO and other senior staff members not have thought of the implications and the time it was going to take to process new applications? I am sure that when his organisation was bringing in new processes, it knew there were going to be delays and teething...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Kehoe: What I am saying is that Mr. Duggan states that if the breeders had not got the correct information on some of their correspondence or paper, or what ever the position is, did Horse Sport Ireland not offer any mentoring or training, or whatever, to explain that in two years' or in 12 months' time that Horse Sport Ireland was changing the processing and that there would be a need for breeders'...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Kehoe: The new processes or system which Horse Sport Ireland will be introducing or testing is out for tender at the moment. Am I correct in saying that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Kehoe: What is Horse Sport Ireland's projections of the processing of a passport?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Kehoe: Hold on. It should not be driven by anything. I am sure the witnesses have looked at projections, but they are going to introduce a whole new system. They have to look at what my projection is. They will spend significant amounts of money on this new system. It is out for tender at the moment. If I was in the private sector and was introducing a new way of doing something, I would say...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Kehoe: Dr. Egan said four to six weeks, but the man I spoke to this evening has been waiting since 1 July.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Kehoe: Are any applications processed within 20 days at the moment?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Kehoe: I did not ask that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Kehoe: No, no. This is either a yes or no answer.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Kehoe: Is any application being processed within a month?

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