Dáil debates

Thursday, 22 October 2020

Commission of Investigation (Mother and Baby Homes and certain related Matters) Records, and another Matter, Bill 2020: Committee and Remaining Stages

 

4:55 pm

Photo of Thomas PringleThomas Pringle (Donegal, Independent) | Oireachtas source

I thank the Cathaoirleach for the opportunity to speak again. although I wonder what is the point. It might be worth recording that everyone is wrong except the Department. Maybe we should put on the record that everyone here is wrong, all the survivors are wrong, all the people who have gone through the material and all the academics who have worked on the entire process over recent years are all wrong and the Department is right. That is what we are to take from the process and go off into the sunset.

Deputy Connolly said everything that needed to be said on what is being done here; there is very little I can add. I am not qualified enough to add anything but I want to echo her call. Since the Minister will not accept any amendments, maybe he will publish the sixth interim report, as Deputy Connolly called for, and do so before this legislation passes tonight. Surely he can call his Department and tell his officials to publish it on its website in the next half hour? Surely it is not that important. It is not the third secret of Fatima, except obviously it is because apparently this legislation has to be enacted before the interim report can be published. It would be vital to give some semblance of rebuilding faith in the Department on the part of the people it is supposed to serve.

They are the people who have lost faith. Unfortunately, many of us politicians probably did not have faith in the first place, but people outside the House did have faith that the process could actually do something and could help them in some way. I call for the publication of the interim report in the next half hour or before the legislation is passed. It is the only thing I can do at this stage.

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