Mattie McGrath (Tipperary South, Independent) | Oireachtas source

It does matter. I was loud so I do not know what the Deputy is muttering. However, she will have time to speak.

Making the establishment of a new agency with €500 million the headline of the Minister's speech will not make it manna from heaven. It will have 4,000 staff and a budget of roughly €500 million. That does not make it right. There are many bad practices in the HSE, as the Minister is well aware, and I outlined some of them that took place under several Governments.

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