John McGuinness (Carlow-Kilkenny, Fianna Fail)

Yes, and I respect that. I would like to correct Deputy Barry who said no Minister spoke out in that regard. I did. I spoke out in 2008, but nobody listened. Deputy Varadkar spoke out in the past few days and he was chastised too. There must be a certain freedom in this House and on the Government side for people to have a different view and people must be listened to in the context of the great debate currently under way about fixing this country. I do not accept Deputy Barry's conclusion that it was all our fault. Fine Gael does itself no service by continuing to blame Fianna Fáil for all of the ills of the country.

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