Paul Daly (Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

As I said, that could have been avoided, I think, if the horse was put before the cart, not vice versa.

In the interest of balance, I noted that Senator Boyhan mentioned a councillor from Gort. Coincidentally, the man who has given me the most information on this is a man who is very much associated with the mart down there and everything to do with cattle, Councillor Gerry Finnerty. That is in the interest of balance, considering somebody was mentioned previously.

If I talk for a second about the whole concept, I get the science. I see where we are going and I know what way things are intentioned. As I said at the outset, I breed Angus bulls. I will give the witnesses an example from five or six years ago. I had a young lad in the yard buying a bull. He brought his grandfather with him, and his grandfather was lying over the pen of bulls looking at the bulls while the young fella was on his phone looking at the year tags. In the end, the grandfather won and the young lad did not bring home the bull the phone was telling him to buy. The young lad came back three years later and said, "That auld lad was not as thick as I thought he was." They are breeding cattle and they got the calves they wanted, not from looking at the phone but from looking at the bull. Where is the ICBF going to draw the line on that?