Martin Browne (Tipperary, Sinn Fein) | Oireachtas source

That is what I am talking about. I remember open fires in my house and in this type of weather or this time of year, you would see sparks rising up and coming out the top of the chimney. It was not just at ground level. I cannot understand how anybody can stand over that and say that there is a bigger fire risk.

Ms Murdock was saying she is an engineer and I will take her word for it but from what I have seen from living in the country, in every country house you might see sparks coming out of a chimney. Suddenly, over the past couple of years, there seems to be a massive issue that those sparks are going to burn down the house.

Do Deputies Higgins or Buckley wish to come in?