Ruairi Ó Murchú (Louth, Sinn Fein) | Oireachtas source

It definitely will not be as long a moment as previously. Some of it relates to the rule-of-law issue, whether we are dealing with Hungary or a possible particular regime in France or anywhere else. Fiscal levers have been introduced. That is probably the ground there needs to be in maintaining what is an acceptable rule of law, while I understand we have to get some element of agreement regarding what warrants this.

The only other matter, which I think Dr. Colfer spoke about, was the movement from market to social. The one thing Covid probably showed, even to parties that would be more right wing than mine, was the idea that a public system is needed, particularly a public health system. As dangerous and difficult as it might be at times, interventionism even as regards climate change and the new European Green Deal and so on are all positives, if we can do it in such a way that benefits people as much as possible, and we try to bring them along the journey in other areas where there definitely will be a need for change. It will not always be easy. I agree with Senator McDowell on that. There are probably better ways of communicating, at which we can all fail.