Alan Kelly (Tipperary, Labour) | Oireachtas source

I am not convinced. The real issue with these schemes is affordability. It is the one thing that pops up all the time across all politicians' clinics, I would say. It is the real issue. Unless we can grasp that, I will be honest, I do not think there is a hope of reaching these targets. There needs to be a rapid transformation. By the way, this is not all within SEAI's gift, and I appreciate that but I would love see some measurement from SEAI indexing this as an issue. To be honest, in the political sphere, we need to deal with this because the longer-term benefits outweigh the manner in which we need to make this affordable.