Mr. Brendan Gleeson:

One of the things that happened a number of years ago was that we got representations from the sector seeking more support. We said we could have a look at it. There was a cross-sectoral agreement on a strategy called Reaching New Heights. We then said, "Fine, if you want more support, we want to look at the governance." We then got Indecon to go in and do a governance report, and it made recommendations about the shape of the board and how people would be represented. At the time, there was a 19- or 20-member board. It was enormous. That was important because people wanted to be represented. However, it was not how one would shape a board, really, if one was trying to have a functional board. The solution we came up with was to have a smaller board but to have a series of sub-committees on which all of the stakeholders and affiliates would be represented. That is the way it is now.

I acknowledge the controversy. It had to do with more than just that specific incident. However, we have put ministerial nominees in there now, and the intention is to consolidate the position of the organisation. We will have a look at it then.