Mr. Brendan Gleeson:

Perhaps, but it has a limited fund and things to do with it. It also uses a proportion of its sponsorship money and private income on welfare. Every time we have a governance meeting with GRI - such meetings take place a couple of times a year - we raise welfare issues.

They are putting a lot of effort into welfare initiatives. Again, it is one of these contested sectors. This is difficult and the sector is coming from a background where it had great difficulties a few years ago. We all know that. They are taking it seriously.

On the question of the IHRB CEO, as I understand it, that was done in September 2021. I certainly did not know anything about it. It was brought to my attention. The defence from IHRB is essentially that this top-up in the pension fund did not involve public money but its own resources, but it is all a bit circular.