Mr. Tom Stephenson:

Yes. I am here more or less to see if we can come up with some solutions. Everybody else is talking about the finance end of it, but we may need to stop and start again. We have to figure out where this all started from. People are talking here about getting finance. The Department of Defence, Coillte and the National Parks and Wildlife Service will have to be brought before the committee in order that they can offer their tuppence or shilling's worth. The original problem with forestry started in those three particular areas. In the Glen of Imaal in my part of the country, there is an army shouting range. You could not possibly go in there with a gun to shoot a deer because it is military land. The deer are let run free on that land the whole time. The Department of Agriculture, along with the Department of Defence, the National Parks and Wildlife Service and the Department of Housing, Local Government and Heritage, will have to come in. The money is there to eradicate the problem without trying to get more money from farmers. That is my little bit for the moment.