Mr. Tony O'Brien:

The internal audit report generally is one that would induce very negative feelings about what it says and the people who were responsible for what happened there. It is not, however, clear from the internal audit report, and there is no basis for me to draw the conclusion, that what we might generally call the misuse of funds related to the funding provided by the HSE, or that the HSE was at a loss in terms of the services that it was paying for, which continued to be provided during the period. That in no way, however, diminishes the appalling vista that one sees when one reads the report, which is about the totality of that organisation and all of the things that went on there.