Brian Stanley (Laois-Offaly, Sinn Fein) | Oireachtas source

There were so many people undertaking management courses. I am trying to reconcile in my head the practice around the fact that 52 people from not that big a State body or public body were undertaking courses. On the other hand, to quote Ms Campion, you hit the "jackpot". That may not be the best term to use for it but, in the context of a number of issues that relate to poor management, poor practices in governance, etc., is it not unusual that 52 people were undertaking courses in the same years, yet IFI finished up with a number of these debacles relating to governance and poor practice?