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Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: I move amendment No. 11: In page 27, between lines 12 and 13, to insert the following: "(iii) by the insertion of the following subsection after subsection (7): "(8) The Minister shall not seek to prohibit any person from being a member of a representative association on the basis of the post they hold.",".

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: I move amendment No. 12: In page 27, to delete lines 19 to 38, and in page 28, to delete lines 1 and 2.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: I am listening to the Tánaiste but believe it is important, for the sake of the dignity and respect we can show to members of the Defence Forces, that those members be entitled to representation regardless of the posts they hold. The Tánaiste mentioned the Chief of Staff. I am sure this could be dealt with in the terms and conditions. Does the Tánaiste accept that, in a...

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: In the initial draft of the Bill, the Tánaiste sought to place a prohibition on certain members of the Defence Forces being members of representative associations. We have talked about this. It was as if the Tánaiste was looking to expand the list. His argument for this was that those involved in the disciplinary process within the military need to be able to be impartial. There...

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: It is nothing to do with the amendments.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: I have said it already but I will say it again. I do not like the tone the Tánaiste took. He is acting as if we have not discussed the victims. We have all discussed the victims several times. Sinn Féin has had several meetings with them. This is not in any way to disrespect anybody, certainly not the external oversight group, or the Secretary General - that position is...

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: Why do you want the-----

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: You are arguing against-----

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: You are arguing against having the Secretary General there on it at all.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: If the Tánaiste is upset about what was said in the Seanad and he wants to give them a scolding-----

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: -----maybe he should go into the Seanad and do that, but nobody here has been disrespectful about the external oversight board. We had a really good meeting with them at committee. It was positive. I have every faith in Professor Brian MacCraith and the other members of the-----

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: The Tánaiste was saying to accept the recommendations of the IRG. What I took from what the Tánaiste said there was that he felt that - I am talking about amendment No. 6, which I tabled - having representatives from the Defence Forces representative groups on the EOB in an ex officio capacity would be as if the external oversight group would not be able to handle that. We had a...

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: Oh, God.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: Well talk to them then and stop grumbling about them.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: I will pass it over for the moment.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: I will let the Cathaoirleach Gníomhach know in a second.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: I move amendment No. 6: In page 14, line 33, to delete "and" where it secondly occurs and substitute the following: "(c) the Secretaries General of those military representative associations authorised by the Minister as per subsection (3A) of the Defence (Amendment) Act 1990 (inserted by section 23(a)(iii) of the Defence (Amendment) Act 2024) who shall be ex officio members, and". ...

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: I move amendment No. 5: In page 9, line 13, to delete “or matter of Government policy”.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: I move amendment No. 3: In page 9, line 11, to delete “or matter of Government policy”.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: This is Ireland. There are only three degrees of separation, if that, between any of us in this country. In communities where members of the Defence Forces live, everybody knows they are members of the Defence Forces. Government policy may result in an increase in the price of petrol. When they are filling their cars they may comment on the cost of living and the increase in the price of...

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